if a recent transfer,what were they in before ?....and define "water was in really bad condition" (how,why,in what way ?)
Before the transfer into the 30 G they were in a 20 G in my best friends room. We had not done a water change in a very long time. The water was to the point where it smelled something awful. I acted as quickly as a I could and got them both out before anything else happened to them. Transferred them to the 30 G. I will buy a big tank next week when I get the money.
If not the water,then what killed the Shubunken ? Did the tank just sit empty between the time the Shununken were in it until the O and cichlid (what kind of cichlid ?) were placed in it ?
I don't know what killed my shubunken I wasn't in the country. I left my fish in care of my father and he said that it was cause there was no light in the room. I found out later that the tank was missing water and that the filter that was in there wasn't working properly because it wasn't getting the water it needed to process air for them. Yes, I didn't touch the water at all in between the change of the tanks. I figured my tank would be better than the one they were in before and since I really needed to act quickly I picked to transfer them. The tank did not sit empty there was a beta in there who was having the time of his life having all 30 G to himself. I don't know what kind of Cichlid it is we caught it in the wild.
I will go get the water readings and post them up as soon as I get them.
Welcome to the forum. The big things that jump out at me are tank size, not knowing what you have for filtration and it sounds like you don't do regular water changes. Tank size should be a bare minimum of 75gal with an O and one more fish. You should know what kind of filtration you have on the tank but I suspect there isn't any. With a 30gal containing an O and another fish 80% water changes should be done daily. As oinky said your O is stunted he should be at least 11" at two years old. Another question that comes to mind is there a heater in the tank? Sorry to hit you with so much, not trying to pick on you just trying to help.
The filtration is the one that's for 30 G tank. I didn't think of getting a bigger one because all I had were shubunken. They don't require much water changes and only eat pellets.
80%!?!? isn't that a bit too much for a 30 G? I thought it was bad to change the water so quickly and so much of it. How could I do an 80% water change with the tap water? I'd be terrified of killing them from the chlorine in the tap water. I don't understand how you'd like to me change the water, please explain.
There is no heater in the tank. I didn't think they needed one; I've never read that they needed one.
I'm seriously over my head here. There's so much I really don't know about fish care. Like I said my shubunken never needed more than a little bit of water change and pellets.
Thank you for all your help! I really appreciate it.