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My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby Jim Dandy » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:38 pm

Hi, I am caring for a Tiger Oscar (about 10 inches long) and a big suckerfish(14 inches long), recently the Oscar started to get a bit bloated, stopped eating and is now swimming as though it is drunk but mostly just floats on its side. I do not know anything about these fish other than to do water change once every couple of days about 20% or so and feed oscar bloodworms and dry pellets for 3 minutes or less depending on apetite and algae disks for the sucker.

ph- 7.7
ammonia- 0
GH- 280
KH- 100
nitrite- 0
tank is 90 Gallons i think
the filter is on the side of the tank, it sucks water up a tube then pours it back like a water fall I don't know what it is but it moves the water pretty good.
I also don't know what these levels are suposed to be at so any advice would be awsome.
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby lunchbox » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:56 pm

the filter is a HOB (hang on back) the more experienced people, (and maybe me) could probably help you out.... what kind of filter is it? it should say on there the name. the ph, ammonia and nitrAte are perfect. what does the nitrIte read? (nitrAte/nitrIte)
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby lunchbox » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:09 am

how often do you feed it? what is the temperature of the tank? is he pooping? are his eyes cloudy? can you post a picture?
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby Gerry » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:04 am

You posted ammonia and nitrite and they are OK, what is your nitrates?

Just now as a starter I would do a large 75% water change (remember your water conditioner) add pure salt with no additives (I use rock salt) 1 tablespoon per 10 gallons dissolved first and added slowly also add some Epsom salts at 1 tablespoon in 10 gallon too
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby JohnL » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:47 am

I wouldn't worry too much about the type of filter you have at this point. As Gerry said a 75% water change is a good place to start and I would advise doing 50% water changes every couple of days. The readings you provided look good but you need to get a reading on the nitrate in the tank. Nitrates should be kept at 10ppm or below and that is accomplished through water changes. I read somewhere, don't know how true it is, that too much blood worms can cause constipation in some fish so you may want to stick to the pellets. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby amyabe2001 » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:24 am

Hi
I read in my oscar book if they are constipated, quit feeding him for a week. Give his digestive track a chance to get back on track again.
A week will definalty clear it up. Oscars are gluttons so they can get bloated alot.
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby callen » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:59 am

It sounds like he is constipated or his swim bladder may have been injured. What are you feeding him? Peas are a great way to relief constipation. See if you can get him to eat some peas. The other thing that will help as Gerry mentiond is adding Epsom salts this works as a laxative and helps the fish to poop.

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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby Alan » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:22 am

hiya welcome to the site , sorry your O is having problems but your in good hands with the advice given above :fro:
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby Big O » Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:51 pm

What is the temp in your tank. With all that protein and not enough heat your O might not be able to physically digest its meal.
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby callen » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:02 pm

Jim I just reread your post and saw that you did post what you feed your O. Sorry I posted in a rush this morning. Big O brings up a good point about a high protein diet. O's need a huge variety of foods so you may want to switch it up a bit. Here is a link to a food list and some great recipes. Hope this helps... viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13487
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby lunchbox » Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:51 pm

sorry, i read your post wrong. dont listen to me, alan gerry and callen know their stuff! :fruit:
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby grouphomehero » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:21 pm

I agree with the constipation theory. I've found that Oscars are easily over fed. With their cute little dance and their puppy dog eyes, it's easy to feed them too much and/or too often. I'm sure everything will workout. :fro:
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby Katt » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:56 pm

Not anything I can add, but Welcome to us. :)
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby Jim Dandy » Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:58 pm

Hi, Thank-you all so much for the advice, but Spiker died. Everone says oh well its just a fish but even in the short time I was taking care of Spiker it seemed it could tell me from other people. There is alot more to those creatures than most can see. I think I'd really like to get my own Oscar. thank-you all again and best of luck.
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Re: My Oscar is swimming sideways and topsy

Postby Alan » Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:14 pm

really sorry he died :'(
but yes theres more to these fish than meet the eye :fro:
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